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« #105 on 11 February 2011 ą 17h47 »
Ah, I see.

There aren't any plans to add it right now, but truth be told we do have one or two things that take higher priority than this (like IPv6 support, rewriting the admin panel, you know, little things), but we can certainly look at it.

I'm not keen on the JS requirement, though. Personally I'd rather encourage user education: don't post emails publicly, you want to give out an email address, PM someone.
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« #106 on 11 February 2011 ą 19h14 »
I agree completely with the user education!
But some, are ahhh, well, (trying to be nice here) wont lesion. Then cry cause they're getting spammed. I know it's their own fault, yada yada.. I just like to provide as much protection as possible for my members.

Keep in mind it's just a suggestion!! I know you guys have MUCH more important things on the "to do" list.
 
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« #107 on 12 February 2011 ą 0h29 »
It's not a bad suggestion at all :)

Just we have 7 pages worth of topics of 'stuff we're pretty sure we're doing' first...
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« #108 on 12 February 2011 ą 19h03 »
So, is it true that the delay for SMF 2.0 Final is because they are trying to come up with a license that makes it un-forkable? I worry that you guys might have shown your hand too early.
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« #109 on 12 February 2011 ą 21h26 »
I thought it was the other way around, they are going to a license that will allow forks.  The current license is unforkable.
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« #110 on 12 February 2011 ą 21h55 »
Quote from b4pjoe on on 12 February 2011 ą 19h03
So, is it true that the delay for SMF 2.0 Final is because they are trying to come up with a license that makes it un-forkable? I worry that you guys might have shown your hand too early.
No, that's not true. I can't go into the true detail, but suffice to say, if they choose to release on a non BSD licence for final, they hit two major headaches - one, the delay will be many months as much code will have to be rewritten, and two, it will upset a decent proportion of the community who want final sooner rather than later.

The current licence is as RustyBarnacle says, unforkable. We know, we asked explicitly for an exception to allow us to fork, so that they could get rid of us, and both the NPO and LLC denied the request. Can't say I blame them for it, but it would have solved a lot of problems. There is, should we need to, a method for us to be able to distribute the code to the fork legally, but we'd rather not if we can help it.

As for 'tipping the hand early', in all honesty we didn't want it to be this way. We approached the team last August, with an offer to fork but in a way that meant they got patches and fixes for stuff as we found them. That's also why my account reappeared on sm.org, so that I could report to the bug tracker. (I did, even, report the bug that primarily sparked RC5 - yes, I'm the joker who encouraged them to release another RC because of what I called a security issue even if certain team members didn't agree it was a security matter)

Trouble is, after we tried to bridge the gap, we got shit on, at which point we became a hostile fork.
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« #111 on 13 February 2011 ą 1h59 »
Fair enough. Thanks for the explanation.
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« #112 on 13 February 2011 ą 3h22 »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on on 8 February 2011 ą 21h07
Sure, we're hiring right now I think ;)
Can you send over a link?
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« #113 on 13 February 2011 ą 14h49 »
Anyone interested just pm me or Pete.
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« #114 on 13 February 2011 ą 21h46 »
Interested in?
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« #115 on 14 February 2011 ą 12h50 »
Read tfs' posts...
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« #116 on 15 February 2011 ą 1h01 »
Oh, whoops. Sorry. Mhh, if my coding skills would be better, I would help... besides of that I could only help with translations.
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Voilą, les oiseaux bleu chantent pour a nous
Dit donc, fredonne-moi la melodie
Deją, j’ai oublie mon enfantillage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPlsdRl8CCQ

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« #117 on 15 February 2011 ą 17h19 »
We're not asking for anyone's help really... We've been doing 100% of the work, just Pete and I, in the last 6 months, and we're fine with it. We will need people to provide support when the software package goes public, though.
The only things we discuss on our private forum are, err... Well, the new features and what we could do to make them even better ;)
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« #118 on 16 February 2011 ą 18h39 »
I didn't said that you do it, I'm just saying that I would help, If I could help :)
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Longtemps nous avons joue jeux ensemble
Voilą, les oiseaux bleu chantent pour a nous
Dit donc, fredonne-moi la melodie
Deją, j’ai oublie mon enfantillage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPlsdRl8CCQ

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« #119 on 20 February 2011 ą 18h55 »
Hello guys,
this is a good news!
I am a Language moderator and Language translator in to the Czech.
I am not satisfied how the SMF team behaves to translators.
This is my article:
http://www.maxiforum.cz/ceska-...lemachines-vydava-smf-2-0-rc5/
A am looking forward to you work :) :cool:
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