Author Topic: Compatibility problems with RC4 and PortaMX ?  (Read 123018 times)

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(More likely, adding /language,english/ to the end of the URL in SimpleSEF's case)
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Any progress on RC4 compatibility?  I love Aeva Media!!

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Have a look here:

http://portamx.com/topic_2095.msg11982.html#msg11982


I will now test to embed Youtube videos and report back.

Regards, Stefan.

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Hi All,
Feline posted a new fix:

http://portamx.com/topic_2078.msg12008.html#msg12008

Regards, Stefan.

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Can't access topic.

Anyway... I read a few of her posts... She's really not an easy person to deal with, is she? :rolleyes:
Maybe if she did some work on her English, I don't know...
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If someone wants to repost my message below, please feel free.



http://portamx.com/topic_2093.msg12009.html#msg12009

"He hade me, because I have disagree to the SMF fork"

I don't "hade" you, I never said I hated you anywhere, and it is not the case.
I do, however, have a problem with you as a person, and I will address that below.
The ONLY reason I contacted you was that I was annoyed by how the SMF team wouldn't listen to your performance improvement suggestions because you have a strange way of talking to people. And I can relate. So I took the liberty to actually invite you to do that job on our forum, because we would be willing to discuss them, and actually implement them into our fork.
So you were invited, you joined us, then you sent me that PM on September 23. Only one message, and you disappeared. I don't even know if you read my (longish) answer. Here's the contents of the PM, as it totally contradicts what you're saying (because you imply that you disagree with the concept of a, or our, SMF fork):
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Thanks Nao for sharing the link to this forum.
I have read a lot of postings and I will tell you what I think;

1.. Only two Developer is too less for a project like this (same problems as SMF itself).
2.. Without testing the code (the project) I can't involve the PortaMx corp.
3.. I's a fork and the license rights are not cleared

So for the moment I can nothing do or more say as I do.
If you have a license for this project and you're ready to share the rights to the PortaMx corp., we can make a deal.

Fel
That was totally clueless.
So, how can you pretend that I "hade" you when it is *you* who actually were hostile to me?
I won't copy my long PM, but it basically said: (1) we have enough devs. We're working fulltime on it and are doing way more work than the SMF team on this. "PortaMx" is a single person, too, does that prevent you from working on it? (2) We weren't asking you to test our code, we were just asking you to share your ideas about our implementation concepts, and possible ways of making them faster, or choosing better coding practices. We may not *need* counseling, but we're open to external opinions. No one but us has access to the code and it will remain so at least until we go public. (3) I already discussed that -- our fork won't go public until SMF2 Gold is out, and then it'll be forkable. We just decided to begin our work ASAP because it then gave us time to rewrite large parts of the code.

I wasn't asking to "make a deal" with you, just to share ideas. I wasn't asking to share "rights" to our fork, because it's not a commercial business.
In all honestly, I was offended by your PM, but then I realized that your English is really bad and you probably didn't understand much of what I said.
So I just ignored you from that day. But I don't "hade" you. You haven't done anything to me. The only thing I really don't like about you, is how you insist on calling yourself a corporation. "Have a cigar." That's not our spirit. We're just Pete and Gilles. These idealistic coders who will do anything to get SMF out of the mess it put itself in.

That's all I had to say.
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Hi Nao,
I think lots of the misunderstanding comes
from the  language barriers.

I know, that Feline is a very good programmer as you both are too,
so it would be good, if she could do her PortaMX also for your fork.

I think she has a partner in her corporation.
Maybe she develops also other software not related to PortaMX.

Would be good, if you would look into each other´s software,
when time permits and don´t "hade" each other... :gnehe:

Regards, Stefan.

Posted on 17 November 2010 à 17h46

P.S: I just saw, that you also run here RC4 now.
Do you also use SimpleSEF 1.1.1 or how do you do the
URL Rewrite things here at noisen ?

Or are you using PrettyURL or your own code ?
Many thanks.

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So... You won't repost, I guess?
I know, that Feline is a very good programmer as you both are too,
And I'm sure she is.
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so it would be good, if she could do her PortaMX also for your fork.
If she could stop being so full of contempt to someone who she's never talked to (apart from the fork invite), and whose work she obviously never has had a look at...
I very rarely go to the AeMe topic at sm.org but I found this a minute ago:
http://www.simplemachines.org/...c=200401.msg2851583#msg2851583
She's saying I have "bad programming practices". Obviously, she hasn't had a look at AeMe.
And of course, anything that's being said about my copyright insertion routine is wrong. Heck, anyone can look at it... It works just fine. It's the same as in Aeva Lite. It injects a HTML node into the footer div, and if it can't find it, it simply adds to the body (i.e. below the header.)
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I think she has a partner in her corporation.
I have an invisible friend called Gertrude just as well, and I still don't call myself a corporation.
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Maybe she develops also other software not related to PortaMX.
Seriously, you know what a corporation is...? :^^;:

If she really has a "partner", then that must be "him"...
http://portamx.com/topic_1797.0.html
Nicknamed "P.", for "PortaMx". Oh, and writes the exact same way as Feline does...

I'll say it again: she's alone on this. She just thinks it sounds more serious (and better for her business) to call herself a corporation.
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Would be good, if you would look into each other´s software,
when time permits and don´t "hade" each other... :gnehe:
She's really not helping. <sigh>
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P.S: I just saw, that you also run here RC4 now.
I've been running it since day one... Actually since day-1, because Noisen has always been up to date with the latest development revision. Beta tester, remember?
Of course, now that they're no longer willing to give me back my badges (even after I restored the SMF copyright), it's no longer going to be the case. Not that it matters anyway... You know my feelings about the team. And their boss is a liar.
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Do you also use SimpleSEF 1.1.1 or how do you do the
URL Rewrite things here at noisen ?
Why would I use SimpleSEF...?
I helped write PrettyURLs, back in 2007. So I'm using PrettyURLs. A heavily customized version which I'm redoing for the fork, too. (Out of the box support for subdomains. Which is a PITA.)
Posted on 17 November 2010 à 22h14

Hmmm, not her first time saying nice things about me...
http://portamx.com/topic_2095.msg12032.html#msg12032
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Hello together and sorry for my inspection of aeva code discovering the problem with output buffer. I followed the threads here and on portamx and it's a shame, that devs are going to "hade" eachother.

Fel's main language seems to be german (as mine) and she's really not "nice" to bad or wrong questions but Nao - you also keep your answer's really short to your "customers".

I hope, dev's are not going to "hade" eachother and coding goes on next weeks so all people have fun with SMF, AEVA, PORTAmx and all other useful mods on this world.

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I've had my own run-ins with Feline and have to say that if you happen to disagree with her that you have to work hard to be seen as right thereafter. I remember the time she flat out asked SlammedDime if he had a computing degree (like it was somehow relevant) in the SimpleSEF thread on sm.org for example (whereupon I joined in, since I certainly don't hold a computing degree of any kind)
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Yes, that was funny,
but Feline told SlammedDime all the errors he made and he was too lazy or slow to fix them...

Still SimpleSEF1.1.1
was the only Mod that still crashes the whole forum...
Damn..
and he still has not posted a new update... !

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Feline also seems to think that anyone who doesn't have a computing degree is unfit to debate with her - I don't, and when I brought it up she backed down. Funny really.

And no, the team will never integrate Aeva into 2.0 gold (yes, we read the Aeva thread), not only because the team feels it's bloat, but that Nao would never give it to them, no matter how much they asked. Just as I won't freely give away my rights to other code they want.

(And no, we would never join the team, not that they'd ever invite us. Even when Nao was a 'consulting dev', they'd already voted not to let him in but made him 'an apprentice' anyway just to use him for the help he'd give.)
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Ah ah...
Seriously, she's CENSORING my posts? And she lies about the reason she removes them? (Seriously, the post was addressed to HER, how can she consider it as a PM between me and spoogs?!?!)

Don't tell me it's a language barrier here. A German jerk is just as much of a jerk as a French jerk to me. And she's complaining that SMF treats her badly but she doesn't see a problem in saying ill of others in their backs, and then censoring their replies!

If I ever was hesitating to include a portal by default in our fork, it would have seriously helped me take a decision, ah ah.
Posted on 19 November 2010 à 10h20
Hello together and sorry for my inspection of aeva code discovering the problem with output buffer.
Why would you have to be sorry?
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I followed the threads here and on portamx and it's a shame, that devs are going to "hade" eachother.
As I said -- I have no hate of her.
But the fact that she's willingly deleting my posts, probably to prevent her "customers" the pain of having to go through a post that questions the very existence of her "corporation", well, THAT doesn't say much good about her.
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Fel's main language seems to be german (as mine) and she's really not "nice" to bad or wrong questions but Nao - you also keep your answer's really short to your "customers".
Free "customers" are not customers -- they're users, that's all. I still devoted over two years to provide free support for them, while juggling with plenty of tasks.
Paying customers are happy with the support I'm providing, AFAIK. (Well, that WE're providing, since it's a team work, too. And thanks to my helpers, really.)
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I hope, dev's are not going to "hade" eachother and coding goes on next weeks so all people have fun with SMF, AEVA, PORTAmx and all other useful mods on this world.
"hading" sessions generally do not eat time out of my work sessions.

I'm thinking of two things right now:
- I'll delete the Aeva Lite copyright from AeMe2. Totally unused. Gimme a sec... Done. Will be in the next update, whenever that happens. And AeMe2 users are from this moment on, allowed to delete the copyright from the auto-embedder process. That is, edit Aeva-Embed.php and empty the "aevacopy" function (just remove everything between the curly brackets "{}"). If you know about PHP code, you may also remove the function entirely, as well as the associated onload calls.[1]
- I should probably move this topic to the public AeMe board. I'm sure she'll appreciate that since she's censoring my post, I'm reposting it, along with ALL the bad things I *NOW* have to say about her behavior, in a public and popular place where she has to influence at all. That's her problem.
 1. NB: this will not fix any PortaMx bugs, but this copyright stuff made me think about it all. Obviously, once our fork is out, you can get a gallery, portal and other stuff that don't sport any copyright notices, because they'll be in the credits area anyway, rather than the footer. It will be frowned upon not to put any mod credits through a specific hook, which is called on the credits area and maybe called on mod pages as well. (Not the call to the hook, but a call to the function you hooked, obviously. Anyway! I'm getting lost myself.)
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I've had my own run-ins with Feline and have to say that if you happen to disagree with her that you have to work hard to be seen as right thereafter.
So it's even more to your credit that you actually didn't see a problem in me inviting her over to our private boards.
(Actually you should have told me you'd had problems with her... I've never seen a single dispute where I thought you were in the wrong. Can't say the same for me :P)
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I remember the time she flat out asked SlammedDime if he had a computing degree (like it was somehow relevant) in the SimpleSEF thread on sm.org for example (whereupon I joined in, since I certainly don't hold a computing degree of any kind)
Lol.
Well, neither do I. I mean, I don't hold any degree whatsoever. I have my Bac (high school graduation exams), but I was too late to register for computer studies, so I chose someone else that bored me to death, stopped it, and in the meantime I developer an interest for the Japanese language so I went into Japanese studies instead (less crowded), after a year I found work as a translator so I dropped out during year 2 because I couldn't do both at the same time. Then I released KMJ and never had to actually work for anyone else, ever. So why bother with a degree... :o)
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