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Thanks guys sounds good to me  :cool:
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OH! I am grateful for coming across this post. It is really so disappointing to have one's suspicions confirmed like that. And by none other than two of the most prominent SMF devs. Everywhere on the SMF site, mods are left out to die, not being updated or simply dropped to whoever would care to pick them up to continue their development. This is insanity, especially considering that SMF should be at its peak now that they "appear" to be finally closing in on the stable 2.0 release. I have been in the balance for a few years to be honest. I have tested phpBB3 as well as other free and paid alternatives several times, as it seriously felt that SMF was not supported anymore. So few people working on it, and when i compare with phpBB community, it's a world of difference. Still, i am more comfortable with SMF and the mods installation is much easier, so i stuck to SMF all this time. But i know several of my friends who dumped SMF as the competition was always updating and releasing very aggressively, relative to the frozen SMF development.

I have to agree 100% on your commitment and dedication. You have done so much in a few months (over 2MB of new code!) compared to the SMF team, which has stagnated for so many years on the 2.0 Gold release. I think you did good by branching out or your will and skills would have been stifled even longer and killed. This will be hugely beneficial to the entire SMF community and will prevent SMF from losing more faithful users by the day. On the contrary, your efforts will attract more attention to SMF being "back in the game".

Once SMF 2.0 Gold is released, you could just make a special patch, that would incorporate all your efforts into a single bundle. We could just use it via the package manager and also maybe add your own Package servers to the existing list, so that we can easily browse and use your updates. SMF 3.0 is probably not going to be released in my life-time (unless the SMF team is rebuilt with the right people) and i'm just a little younger than Arantor, so that's a really long time of expected idleness and unproductivity from a lost SMF team.

Nao/Gilles and Arantor, you guys have my full support; my server, bandwidth and space. I am one of the best beta testers (so i have been told) and have personally bought a few paid mods, most of which i have beta-tested and improved via feedback to the developers. So, if you could use my help, please do not hesitate to PM me and i will do my best to improve the SMF fork.

My faithfulness lies with SMF and if the SMF team is not going to do anything about SMF but instead just sit on their thrones and gaze around lazily and steal from others, then you guys should be applauded for keeping SMF alive via your forked venture!
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sharks well said  :cool:
"Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul."

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Well said indeed - there's just one thing I want to pick up on.
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Once SMF 2.0 Gold is released, you could just make a special patch, that would incorporate all your efforts into a single bundle. We could just use it via the package manager and also maybe add your own Package servers to the existing list, so that we can easily browse and use your updates.
Well, it would have to be a totally unmodded 2.0 gold with no custom themes in order for it to work and it would be modifying every single file in SMF and adding numerous more. We're not a small change on top of SMF, we're a colossal change, with so many changes it's unreal.

Without wishing to point fingers, I have to say I'm honestly curious to see what SMF 2.1 or 3.0 will look like since they are firmly campaigning to be a forum and not anything else, which does make me wonder what new things there are to add, because virtually everything they could look at is really a social feature rather than a discussion one.
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I'm with Pete! Thanks sharks!
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Hi,
sorry, if my messages came across a little bit harsh, cause my first language is not english,
but German.
So I sometimes have problems with formulating it correctly in English language.

Well, how will your fork compare to
the Simple-Press.com
Forum for wordpress ?

As I am working in this moment often with Wordpress for other sites,
I came across this simple-press.com forum and wonder how it will
compare to the smf fork.
As under wordpress there is a really nice gallery script nextgen gallery
and also many very good plugins for affiliate programs like
autoblogging, amazon, ebay stores, etc...
I wonder, if I should not move completely to this platform.

Well, we will see, what will be the best system to use in the future.

I will hope Nao will still make paid versions of Aeva available for the standard SMF
version, so we still could get bug fixed, if somebody wants to use now
SMF 2.0RC4.

Also it would be great, if one could choose the layout in the AEVA admin panel,
where to have the comments or image details info box, etc...
I would be willing to pay for this, as I need it now and will
need to get this project finished now.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Well, how will your fork compare to
the Simple-Press.com
Forum for wordpress ?
Well, how do you think Simple:Press compares to SMF?
To me, SMF is way better than Simple:Press in every area... (Even bbPress is BY FAR better than Simple:Press...)
I don't really see how we could 'compare' SP with our fork then. Our fork will just be better.
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As under wordpress there is a really nice gallery script nextgen gallery
I've never looked into it. (Never looked into any gallery system after I started work on SMG, actually. So I only know of Coppermine and Gallery2. Which both sucked.)
In what way is it any good?
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I wonder, if I should not move completely to this platform.
It's up to you.
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Well, we will see, what will be the best system to use in the future.
WP has had the momentum for a few years now. It won many prizes. Not because of its robustness, but because it has become the de fact blogging platform and many developers are thus working on improving it.
Now, WP is just that -- a blogging platform. I don't really see much of a point in building a CMS out of it. I dunno.
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I will hope Nao will still make paid versions of Aeva available for the standard SMF
version, so we still could get bug fixed, if somebody wants to use now
SMF 2.0RC4.
Well, if a bug is found... I'll fix it and update my AeMe SVN. And when there's enough crap to release, I'll release.
What I know, though, is that any media code I'll add in the fork, won't be ported back to AeMe. Too complicated.
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Also it would be great, if one could choose the layout in the AEVA admin panel,
where to have the comments or image details info box, etc...
I think I'll try doing something like that.
Dunno if it could be overridden for specific albums, too.
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I would be willing to pay for this, as I need it now and will
need to get this project finished now.
Paying for what?
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Paying, I think for changing Aeva's configuration options, though not really explaining what he wants.

Trouble is, people like me and Nao don't do things for the money so much, but for the simple joy of making things, which means we're great at building, not so great about building things for individuals ;)
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Pretty much it, yeah.
Actually, I can do that, but I just can't be made happy. If I'm getting paid for something, I'm a sellout. If I'm doing things for free, I'm a fool. So I just chose not to do anything for anyone unless I'm enjoying it myself.
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As soon as I will get my forum up again,
where I installed the AEVA and the SimpleSEF crashed it,
I will post a screenshot made with a picture editor,
how I would like to have the setup of the AEVA gallery.

Stay tuned, I have to go now, will do this tommorow evening...

Many thanks.

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Hire someone, expect them to live up to your expectations, than expect a catastrophic fail.  :mdr:

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I know you've both said your not "listening" to requests, but...  ^_^

If I can put only one thing onto the wishlist for the fork, it's an API to allow programmatic control of the forum (making user accounts, sharing of authentication with the rest of a website, that sort of thing).

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You mean like a mutant version of SMF API and SSI?
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Well, like the API, yes (haven't started looking into SSI yet, but it's only a matter of time); that being the only "blocker" for me.

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The SMF API should be enough to help you write a bridge if that's what you want... Although it's not up to date and buggy here and there. (I don't know if they released the version with my fixes. I don't even know if it can be downloaded at all.)
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